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	<title>Comments on: Not ALL Links are Created Equal &#8211; IP Addresses Matter &#8211; A Lot!</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Thanks for the excellent insights on IP addresses and linking strategies.
It is a bit confusing if you try to understand the IP address numbers and which are A&#039;s or B&#039;s or C&#039;s etc. so just keeping the simple concept of spreading the linking around to different host is easy to understand.

Thanks again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Thanks for the excellent insights on IP addresses and linking strategies.<br />
It is a bit confusing if you try to understand the IP address numbers and which are A&#8217;s or B&#8217;s or C&#8217;s etc. so just keeping the simple concept of spreading the linking around to different host is easy to understand.</p>
<p>Thanks again</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey great insightful article Mike. But I do disagree that Google will punish you because you share the same ISP as some othe bad site. The reality is that Google realizes you will likely being doing a shared hosting with the hosting companies out there. Heck, even companies like Hostgator that have a great reputation likely have bad neighbourhoods on the same ISP. So I really don&#039;t think that its going to harm my home based business in that sense. However, I absolutely agree that overall you do want to have back links coming from as many places as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey great insightful article Mike. But I do disagree that Google will punish you because you share the same ISP as some othe bad site. The reality is that Google realizes you will likely being doing a shared hosting with the hosting companies out there. Heck, even companies like Hostgator that have a great reputation likely have bad neighbourhoods on the same ISP. So I really don&#8217;t think that its going to harm my home based business in that sense. However, I absolutely agree that overall you do want to have back links coming from as many places as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: trading online</title>
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		<dc:creator>trading online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is scary. I want to start using an article service for article submission and I noticed that some of their sites are deindexed. I hope I don&#039;t get banned by google</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is scary. I want to start using an article service for article submission and I noticed that some of their sites are deindexed. I hope I don&#8217;t get banned by google</p>
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		<title>By: Pro IM Tools</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pro IM Tools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By day I&#039;m a Network Administrator, so it all seems easy to me (but then I&#039;ve been doing IP Addresses for 20 years).  But yeah, the point is not too many links from the same IP address ranges.  Hosting blogs at various hosting companies, free blog sites like blogger, submiting articles to various article submission sites, social bookmarking...all create backlinks spread across different IP addresses.  Best to mix it all up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By day I&#8217;m a Network Administrator, so it all seems easy to me (but then I&#8217;ve been doing IP Addresses for 20 years).  But yeah, the point is not too many links from the same IP address ranges.  Hosting blogs at various hosting companies, free blog sites like blogger, submiting articles to various article submission sites, social bookmarking&#8230;all create backlinks spread across different IP addresses.  Best to mix it all up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt that if google would ban your site if you gets links from crappy sites. You cannot control who links to you. Google would either ban you if you use the same anchor text a lot or if you get to much link in one day, and get none for the other days.

For people trying to get links from different IPs, they should create a link wheel. This would help them to rank for low competitive niches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that if google would ban your site if you gets links from crappy sites. You cannot control who links to you. Google would either ban you if you use the same anchor text a lot or if you get to much link in one day, and get none for the other days.</p>
<p>For people trying to get links from different IPs, they should create a link wheel. This would help them to rank for low competitive niches.</p>
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		<title>By: Segura SEO Consulting Agency</title>
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		<dc:creator>Segura SEO Consulting Agency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very glad to see someone clearly and properly address the differences between a profitable link building strategy and a worthless one. Excellent article for those whom are new to SEO, I think you definitely helped a few people understand some of the core concepts behind what we do. Keep the good stuff coming man, talk to ya soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very glad to see someone clearly and properly address the differences between a profitable link building strategy and a worthless one. Excellent article for those whom are new to SEO, I think you definitely helped a few people understand some of the core concepts behind what we do. Keep the good stuff coming man, talk to ya soon.</p>
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		<title>By: iPod cases</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPod cases</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep too many from the same ip class and your get the slap down.
thanks for the post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep too many from the same ip class and your get the slap down.<br />
thanks for the post</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Mike!

As usual, you provide good content in easy-to-understand terminology to your readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Mike!</p>
<p>As usual, you provide good content in easy-to-understand terminology to your readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Liebner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Liebner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;d like to hope Google would not penalize you for something your competitors could DO to you, I have had domains DIVE for no apparent reason other than from linking - so - that&#039;s a tough one - I think they give you some room but if you cross the threshold they dump on you :&#039;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;d like to hope Google would not penalize you for something your competitors could DO to you, I have had domains DIVE for no apparent reason other than from linking &#8211; so &#8211; that&#8217;s a tough one &#8211; I think they give you some room but if you cross the threshold they dump on you :&#8217;></p>
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		<title>By: Neil Shearing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Shearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, nice article. :)

In theory, Google can&#039;t give your site a bad ranking based on links from bad neighbourhoods... because it could be used by unethical companies to blacklist their competitors.

What do you think?

Neil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, nice article. <img src='http://articleblog.articleunderground.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In theory, Google can&#8217;t give your site a bad ranking based on links from bad neighbourhoods&#8230; because it could be used by unethical companies to blacklist their competitors.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>Neil.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the useful informations. Best is not to have too many links from the same IP address, afew links should be pretty ok, i guess..

End of the day, i think what Tavis mentioned is true: High quality links is the way to go !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the useful informations. Best is not to have too many links from the same IP address, afew links should be pretty ok, i guess..</p>
<p>End of the day, i think what Tavis mentioned is true: High quality links is the way to go !</p>
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		<title>By: Hermann Hoerter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hermann Hoerter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am confused too. Those numbers don&#039;t mean much to me, and I think a lot of people don&#039;t care. The lesson learned here is, not to have many, or any, links coming from the same IP address. I am using a few hosts myself, so that will never happen that I link from one site, on the same host, to another site on that host.
Anyway, it was a good lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am confused too. Those numbers don&#8217;t mean much to me, and I think a lot of people don&#8217;t care. The lesson learned here is, not to have many, or any, links coming from the same IP address. I am using a few hosts myself, so that will never happen that I link from one site, on the same host, to another site on that host.<br />
Anyway, it was a good lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: Master Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Master Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, Travis, while your explanations are correct I&#039;ve heard it Mikes way for so long it&#039;s become the norm. Heh, I know a couple of large web hosting providers that explain it the same way Mike does. Yes, I know, just because everyone understands it one way doesn&#039;t make that way right. I know that kind of stuff irritates people who really know. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, Travis, while your explanations are correct I&#8217;ve heard it Mikes way for so long it&#8217;s become the norm. Heh, I know a couple of large web hosting providers that explain it the same way Mike does. Yes, I know, just because everyone understands it one way doesn&#8217;t make that way right. I know that kind of stuff irritates people who really know. <img src='http://articleblog.articleunderground.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tavis. Now I am all confused :&#039;&gt;

Regardless of the specifics - the basic gist is - be careful about having too many links come from the same places! It&#039;s the excessive activity that will be problematic. A few links from the same IP or class or subnet is usually not a problem - it&#039;s when ALL or MOST of your links come from the same places that it raises suspicion and a penalty or worse may occur :&#039;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tavis. Now I am all confused :&#8217;&gt;</p>
<p>Regardless of the specifics &#8211; the basic gist is &#8211; be careful about having too many links come from the same places! It&#8217;s the excessive activity that will be problematic. A few links from the same IP or class or subnet is usually not a problem &#8211; it&#8217;s when ALL or MOST of your links come from the same places that it raises suspicion and a penalty or worse may occur :&#8217;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Tav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although in essence your post was great, just wanted to point out a few very significant errors.  I think the readers know what you&#039;re trying to say, but for the sake of proper education, I think it&#039;s important to clarify a few things.

&quot;EVERY IP ADDRESS has class A, B, C and D - all of them.&quot;

This is NOT correct.  Every IP address is EITHER a class A, B, C, or D.  It can only be ONE of them, not ALL of them...  What you are trying to say is every IP address has 4 separate octets which make up the address - ie, you will not see a 192.1.5   - it is missing the fourth octet. 

IP address classification is NOT as you have shown in your example:

&quot;208.109.181.174
that is an IP address
here are the classes in that IP - class a, b, c and d:
A 208
B 109
C 181
D 174&quot;

the four separate octets that make up an IP address are not &quot;classes&quot; as you mentioned .  The &quot;class&quot; of an IP is defined only by the first octet:

Specifically the ranges are:
a Class &#039;A&#039; IP address is always 1 to 127.x.x.x
a Class &#039;B&#039; IP address is always 128 to 191.x.x.x
a class &#039;C&#039; IP address is always 192 to 223.x.x.x
a class &#039;D&#039; IP address is always 224 to 247.x.x.x
finally, a class &#039;E&#039; address which was omitted is always 228-255.x.x.x

So in effect, your example is in fact a Class C IP address since it starts with 208.

The other examples you show are NOT the classes you mentioned.

&quot;these are diffenet class B IP’s
208.108.181.122
and
208.111.181.122&quot;

Actually, no, these are not Class B IP address at all - they are still class C ip addresses.  What you are trying to say is these class C addresses are on different subnets.  The same applies on your next example of a &quot;class A&quot; ip address.  One of them is indeed a class A IP address, but the second is still a class C.

Lastly, although the upper limit of any octet in an IP address can vary, you will never see a .999.  In your example, the fourth octet of a class C IP address can only go up to 255.  There&#039;s no such thing as a .999 address nor can a number higher than .255 appear in any of the octets.  ;)

Again, the essence of your post is absolutely correct, linking excessively to and from multiple websites hosted on the same subnet is a huge no no,  regardless of class.   The more unique and varied the classes are (which by default would be completely different hosting providers), the less likelihood of these servers being owned by the same person to do &quot;unscrupulous&quot; linking.  If you were living in a small city with one or two main hosting provider, it is very possible that two completely different companies in completely different markets could be hosted on the same class of IP - and if they linked to each other for legitimate purposes (ie, they were part of a local business directory), Google may look on that unfavorably.

In any case, moral of the story is, if you own multiple websites and are hosting them on the same hosting provider, don&#039;t link to each other ;)

hope this was helpful and coming from a network engineering background, I had to point out the errors ;)

cheers
Tavis

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although in essence your post was great, just wanted to point out a few very significant errors.  I think the readers know what you&#8217;re trying to say, but for the sake of proper education, I think it&#8217;s important to clarify a few things.</p>
<p>&#8220;EVERY IP ADDRESS has class A, B, C and D &#8211; all of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is NOT correct.  Every IP address is EITHER a class A, B, C, or D.  It can only be ONE of them, not ALL of them&#8230;  What you are trying to say is every IP address has 4 separate octets which make up the address &#8211; ie, you will not see a 192.1.5   &#8211; it is missing the fourth octet. </p>
<p>IP address classification is NOT as you have shown in your example:</p>
<p>&#8220;208.109.181.174<br />
that is an IP address<br />
here are the classes in that IP &#8211; class a, b, c and d:<br />
A 208<br />
B 109<br />
C 181<br />
D 174&#8243;</p>
<p>the four separate octets that make up an IP address are not &#8220;classes&#8221; as you mentioned .  The &#8220;class&#8221; of an IP is defined only by the first octet:</p>
<p>Specifically the ranges are:<br />
a Class &#8216;A&#8217; IP address is always 1 to 127.x.x.x<br />
a Class &#8216;B&#8217; IP address is always 128 to 191.x.x.x<br />
a class &#8216;C&#8217; IP address is always 192 to 223.x.x.x<br />
a class &#8216;D&#8217; IP address is always 224 to 247.x.x.x<br />
finally, a class &#8216;E&#8217; address which was omitted is always 228-255.x.x.x</p>
<p>So in effect, your example is in fact a Class C IP address since it starts with 208.</p>
<p>The other examples you show are NOT the classes you mentioned.</p>
<p>&#8220;these are diffenet class B IP’s<br />
208.108.181.122<br />
and<br />
208.111.181.122&#8243;</p>
<p>Actually, no, these are not Class B IP address at all &#8211; they are still class C ip addresses.  What you are trying to say is these class C addresses are on different subnets.  The same applies on your next example of a &#8220;class A&#8221; ip address.  One of them is indeed a class A IP address, but the second is still a class C.</p>
<p>Lastly, although the upper limit of any octet in an IP address can vary, you will never see a .999.  In your example, the fourth octet of a class C IP address can only go up to 255.  There&#8217;s no such thing as a .999 address nor can a number higher than .255 appear in any of the octets.  <img src='http://articleblog.articleunderground.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Again, the essence of your post is absolutely correct, linking excessively to and from multiple websites hosted on the same subnet is a huge no no,  regardless of class.   The more unique and varied the classes are (which by default would be completely different hosting providers), the less likelihood of these servers being owned by the same person to do &#8220;unscrupulous&#8221; linking.  If you were living in a small city with one or two main hosting provider, it is very possible that two completely different companies in completely different markets could be hosted on the same class of IP &#8211; and if they linked to each other for legitimate purposes (ie, they were part of a local business directory), Google may look on that unfavorably.</p>
<p>In any case, moral of the story is, if you own multiple websites and are hosting them on the same hosting provider, don&#8217;t link to each other <img src='http://articleblog.articleunderground.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>hope this was helpful and coming from a network engineering background, I had to point out the errors <img src='http://articleblog.articleunderground.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>cheers<br />
Tavis</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ironmarketer.com"  >http://www.ironmarketer.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please feel fre to comment! Tell me what you think! 

Up to 2 links in the comment are OK as long as they are not spammy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please feel fre to comment! Tell me what you think! </p>
<p>Up to 2 links in the comment are OK as long as they are not spammy!</p>
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